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Post by bgammill138 on Jun 2, 2014 19:34:22 GMT -5
Blackhawks kings series was probably the best playoff series I've seen in the past few years, both teams matched perfectly against one another, both organizations are everything that a hockey team should be if they legitimately want to win the cup, if you hate those teams its cause your team isn't as good... That Carter goal was a good goal, goals are NEVER waived off for high sticks unless its extremely obvious, shooter always gets benefit of the doubt, until they get a "crossbar cam" or some shit those goals are always gonna happen legitimate or not, too hard to tell, and if theres even a little bit of evidence that it might be below the crossbar you have to go with call on the ice, just how it is... besides kings were winning that game regardless if they got that goal or not, crawford is not good enough to keep up with that kinda pace unless the skill of kane/toews/sharp bails him out Sorry to the ducks fan but they will never win a cup with boudreau coaching, enjoy the regular season success, but he is the most predictable coach in the playoffs and against supreme competition/coaches in the west he doesn't stand a chance (playing rookie goalie in that kind of a situation this year was absurd even though it worked one game), he just can't adapt, plus no teemu and possibly hiller leaves huge holes Richmond hockey team would be sick but i seriously doubt it happens, from what I read about the meeting it didn't seem like they had any real set plan on bringing a team in and i just don't see it having much success if it does, it would be like the 50 people that go to VCU hockey games plus like 100 more people, not enough to make it a realistic scenario (i hope i'm wrong though) I'm a caps fan, stoked on new coach but promoting the old GM is an absolute joke and caps will probably become laughing stock of the league, the owners suck and being a caps fan will continue to suck probably for the rest of my life, but missing the playoffs this year was probably the best thing that could have happened for them, i wish Adam Oates a horrible death but if you want to hate on the kings this is pretty good: deadspin.com/drew-doughty-freaking-out-and-falling-over-the-boards-1584974131 |
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Post by evannovak on Jun 2, 2014 19:45:38 GMT -5
I feel like the Caps won't win the Cup until they trade out Ovechkin for a handful of prospects.
Dude only plays when he wants to, and never plays defense.
How can you lead the league in goals and be 3rd to last in plus minus?
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Post by evannovak on Jun 2, 2014 19:48:11 GMT -5
When the Conference finals matchups were set, I was hoping an Eastern Conference team would win the cup. But I didn't think either team in the East could win the cup against either team in the West.
Perhaps I'm just underestimating Lundquist
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Post by AceXAlpha on Jun 2, 2014 19:51:48 GMT -5
I feel like the Caps won't win the Cup until they trade out Ovechkin for a handful of prospects. Dude only plays when he wants to, and never plays defense. How can you lead the league in goals and be 3rd to last in plus minus? I'm honestly with this, caps need new blood. |
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Post by punkrockzach on Jun 2, 2014 19:55:33 GMT -5
Sorry to the ducks fan but they will never win a cup with boudreau coaching, enjoy the regular season success, but he is the most predictable coach in the playoffs and against supreme competition/coaches in the west he doesn't stand a chance (playing rookie goalie in that kind of a situation this year was absurd even though it worked one game), he just can't adapt, plus no teemu and possibly hiller leaves huge holes Not playing Hiller was a strategically sound move, his stats in the Staples Center are awful, and Andersen sprained his MCL, might as well try the up and coming "prodigy" I think Gibson will be Freddie's backup next season, or they'll sign a veteran goalie like Tim Thomas, or Ryan Miller. We don't want Hiller - he gave up on the team; It's been several little things throughout the season he's done and said. You know who had playoffs beards? Everyone but Hiller. Even the kids had them. Rakell, Etem, Smith Pelly, Gibson, Andersen..  And it's more than Teemu going - our UFA list is long. Hiller, Robidas, Selanne, Koivu, Winnik. Our RFAs are Vatanen, Perreault, Silferberg, and Smith-Pelly. I really liked Robidas on the defense, and it's a damn shame he broke his leg. He might retire this season, too. If that's the case I think he'll get signed to a one day deal with the Stars, because he's pretty much lived there. Likewise if JS Giguere retires, I want him a Duck. As for Coach BB, he did pretty well against the Stars, and they're the one team I really feared in the West, Ducks just didn't show up to game 7 against the Kings... |
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Post by bgammill138 on Jun 2, 2014 19:59:08 GMT -5
How can you lead the league in goals and be 3rd to last in plus minus? When your linemates for a majority of the season are Marcus Johannson and Jay Beagle.... if your wondering who they are, thats the point If anyone watched ovi for most of the year he had set up plenty of scoring chances but there isn't a winger on his line that could finish at all, this is where the clueless GM should go out out and find a legitimate winger for Ovi to play with but that didn't happen unless you count Dustin Penner which could have been cool except for the fact that the coach was a complete moron and decided to play him on the 4th line instead of the 1st... Not denying that Ovi sucks defensively, he does, but he takes too much heat for it, and he was asked to score goals so he did, thats what the coach made as a priority, and when your coach was a superstar diva that didn't back check hes not exactly gonna be the best influence for OV... Ovi's played defensively before... and he didn't score, had terrible seasons, so now people ask that he scores... he does and still gets shit on, crosby meanwhile is just as lazy sometimes and gets away with it (did he even play this post season?). Trotz will be able to bring a defensive element to his game hopefully, but he will always take too much criticism Also a reason his plus/minus was so bad is that the goalies were absolutely atrocious for most of the year (again partly the coaching staffs fault), plus the defense was composed of 14 different people majority of which were all under 20 years old... Basically no way should caps trade ovi, they need to get a better defense, start by trading Mike Green, this is still ovis team and they are way better with him than without, take away his 50 goals this season and you have like 10 wins on the season |
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Post by bgammill138 on Jun 2, 2014 20:02:19 GMT -5
If you think Ovi is lazy/only plays when he wants too, you watch too much NBC highlights/milbury bashing and not enough actual caps games, he tries harder than most guys on the team and carries the team most nights, he has shitty games for sure, but dump ovi and caps are a lottery team next year, they aren't bad enough yet to trade ovi, get a top line winger, couple solid defensemen, and a goalie and they are playoff contender
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Post by bgammill138 on Jun 2, 2014 20:11:29 GMT -5
Sorry to the ducks fan but they will never win a cup with boudreau coaching, enjoy the regular season success, but he is the most predictable coach in the playoffs and against supreme competition/coaches in the west he doesn't stand a chance (playing rookie goalie in that kind of a situation this year was absurd even though it worked one game), he just can't adapt, plus no teemu and possibly hiller leaves huge holes Not playing Hiller was a strategically sound move, his stats in the Staples Center are awful, and Andersen sprained his MCL, might as well try the up and coming "prodigy" I think Gibson will be Freddie's backup next season, or they'll sign a veteran goalie like Tim Thomas, or Ryan Miller. We don't want Hiller - he gave up on the team; It's been several little things throughout the season he's done and said. You know who had playoffs beards? Everyone but Hiller. Even the kids had them. Rakell, Etem, Smith Pelly, Gibson, Andersen.. And it's more than Teemu going - our UFA list is long. Hiller, Robidas, Selanne, Koivu, Winnik. Our RFAs are Vatanen, Perreault, Silferberg, and Smith-Pelly. I really liked Robidas on the defense, and it's a damn shame he broke his leg. He might retire this season, too. If that's the case I think he'll get signed to a one day deal with the Stars, because he's pretty much lived there. Likewise if JS Giguere retires, I want him a Duck. As for Coach BB, he did pretty well against the Stars, and they're the one team I really feared in the West, Ducks just didn't show up to game 7 against the Kings... Can't say I followed Hiller all that much, but from what i saw this season his numbers were pretty good and he was having a really good playoffs going into the Kings series, rookie/young goalie will probably do well through the regular season, and maybe through a round of playoffs but without that veteran presence in net you can't make it to the cup, Lundqvist has carried the rangers (a mostly mediocre team) for years and now that they added a couple playmakers they are a legitimate threat. I just don't think rookie goalies will cut it in anaheim, its the exact thing Boudreau did with the Caps, toss his goalies under the bus for younger goalies that don't have the experience and eventually just can't get it done. Boudreaus teams "not showing up" for game 7's has been a theme in his coaching career, which is why he will never be able to get his teams to compete for a cup Hiller has seemed shitty and has awful stretches but as I implied boudreau is horrible with goalies, i would take Hiller on the caps, Dont think ducks make a move for miller, Gigure will retire, Thomas is shot, your best bet is Nabokov, could be backup but handle starting as well. Ducks will wrap up Perreault for sure which was an absolute steal, hes been awesome there when actually given a chance. Losing Koivu would suck though |
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Post by evannovak on Jun 2, 2014 21:17:07 GMT -5
If you think Ovi is lazy/only plays when he wants too, you watch too much NBC highlights/milbury bashing and not enough actual caps games, he tries harder than most guys on the team and carries the team most nights, he has shitty games for sure, but dump ovi and caps are a lottery team next year, they aren't bad enough yet to trade ovi, get a top line winger, couple solid defensemen, and a goalie and they are playoff contender You're right, I don't have cable just Gamecenter so I literally never watch the Capitals. I just believe their offense is entirely too comprised of getting him a one-time from the top of the faceoff circle near the boards. I swear 75% of the time I see the Caps score Ovi is making that play. I'm just curious how they'd do in a Columbus trading Rick Nash away type situation. Also, why on Earth did you guys get rid of Halak for next to nothing? |
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Post by punkrockzach on Jun 3, 2014 5:27:09 GMT -5
If you think Ovi is lazy/only plays when he wants too, you watch too much NBC highlights/milbury bashing and not enough actual caps games, he tries harder than most guys on the team and carries the team most nights, he has shitty games for sure, but dump ovi and caps are a lottery team next year, they aren't bad enough yet to trade ovi, get a top line winger, couple solid defensemen, and a goalie and they are playoff contender You're right, I don't have cable just Gamecenter so I literally never watch the Capitals. Also, why on Earth did you guys get rid of Halak for next to nothing? A) Lemme get that login details bruh.. B) I imagine it's because they're gonna bring up Grubauer from Hershey. He was solid while in net, and Halak was just a stop gap I believe. |
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Post by toolmantaylor on Jun 3, 2014 10:16:39 GMT -5
If you think Ovi is lazy/only plays when he wants too, you watch too much NBC highlights/milbury bashing and not enough actual caps games, he tries harder than most guys on the team and carries the team most nights, he has shitty games for sure, but dump ovi and caps are a lottery team next year, they aren't bad enough yet to trade ovi, get a top line winger, couple solid defensemen, and a goalie and they are playoff contender Couldn't have said it better regarding Ovi and his +/-. Most people that bring up that argument haven't bothered to look at every other players +/- on the roster This year the Rags are proving that anything is possible if you take care of the puck, have discipline in your own end, and play 60 minutes of consistent hockey each night. The Caps struggled with all three of those aspects this season and they gave up plenty of games because of it |
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Post by punkrockzach on Jun 3, 2014 11:16:38 GMT -5
It doesn't hurt that Henrik Lundqvist has entered beast mode. The cup series won't be a team effort of Kings v. Rangers, it's Lundqvist v. Quick. |
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Post by toolmantaylor on Jun 3, 2014 12:08:19 GMT -5
It doesn't hurt that Henrik Lundqvist has entered beast mode. The cup series won't be a team effort of Kings v. Rangers, it's Lundqvist v. Quick. I'd agree with the cup series being more so about Hank vs Quick. Other than game 7 in the Pens series where Hank stood on his head, I think that he's performed just as he should. I might hold him to a higher standard than most others do though. The Kings on the other hand came back from a 3 game deficit to the Sharks, and came from behind three times in a game 7 at the United Center. That takes a lot of discipline and team unity. My point was that it's all about giving your team a chance, and both of these teams did that |
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Post by punkrockzach on Jun 3, 2014 12:15:27 GMT -5
It doesn't hurt that Henrik Lundqvist has entered beast mode. The cup series won't be a team effort of Kings v. Rangers, it's Lundqvist v. Quick. I'd agree with the cup series being more so about Hank vs Quick. Other than game 7 in the Pens series where Hank stood on his head, I think that he's performed just as he should. I might hold him to a higher standard than most others do though. The Kings on the other hand came back from a 3 game deficit to the Sharks, and came from behind three times in a game 7 at the United Center. That takes a lot of discipline and team unity. My point was that it's all about giving your team a chance, and both of these teams did that Agreed. I really think the Rangers rallied behind MSL and the unfortunate death of his mother. They even attended his mother's funeral in Montreal as a team. |
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Post by evannovak on Jun 3, 2014 15:13:31 GMT -5
I had the Kings winning in 7 in the opening series, when they went down 0-3 I didn't panic. Big Joe just can't get it done in the postseason. |
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